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Affect versus effect

As seen on the inside of a lift door at a City of Perth carpark

I’m not going to hold myself up as a grammar guru or a spelling bee queen – no.

It would be too easy to find an example of where I’ve made a mistake.

For instance the other day I was updating my facebook on my new phone and the autotext chose the wrong stationary/ery and I didn’t pick it up.

So… mea culpa.

But then, I’m not a signwriter, a copywriter, where my mistakes are writ large.

(I am a journalist though so I should bloody know better)

Anyhoo, the other day I was in town and I saw this sign.

I was outraged!

“If your behaviour is EFFECTING your family”

Surely a signwriter  would know that “affect” is the verb and “effect” is the noun and therefore in the tradition of other “ing” words – wouldn’t you use the verb.

Jump – Jumping

Run – Running

Shout – Shouting

Affect – Affecting

So indignant, I decided to write this post and to support my argument I thought I’d look up some online resources.

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Then I discovered that there was a whole website just on the confusion between affect and effect.

And then I got really confused.

And now I think I was wrong.

(I know… hard to believe)

This is what the affect vs effect website says:

So, nearly every time you use the –ing form of one of these words as the main verb, unless the meaning is “accomplishing or producing an effect,” the choice to make is affecting.

An example of when to use effecting is this sentence:

The manager’s new plan was effecting a remarkable change in morale.

But… it still looks wrong to me.

What do you think?

UPDATE:  It is wrong.

I wrote to the Standing Committee of Spoken English and got this reply:  The wording in the statement you’ve quoted is definitely wrong. Any style guide would discuss this matter.   It’s a very common mistake.  I practically expect to see the wrong one.  Sadly, a lot of journos get it wrong.

From RH on Facebook:   “I’ve got the answer in simple terms.  When writing a sentence if you can replace the word with “bringing about” you would use “Effecting”. If you can replace it using the word “influencing” you would use ” Affecting”.  Therefore the sign is definitely incorrect.”

And from my dad…”The managers new plan was effecting a remarkable change in morale.  I was also affected by the plan in that the staff were all smiling at me again!”

So the rant stands!

And I would feel very put out if a sign company allowed it to be printed although I’m sure they would take no responsibility.

Why don’t they use spellcheck?

Honestly!

Is it that hard to apply spellcheck to signs BEFORE printing them?

Bad enough reading a real estate ad on the back of a local paper and noticing the word SEPERATELY spelled incorrectly – yes it should be sepArately – but perhaps the offence was less because the font was really small.

It seems far worse a crime when it is writ large upon your business.

I blame the sign writers – yes sure they get a brief from the businesses that use them but it should be a basic duty of care to not let your clients look like numpty heads!

It offends my eye.

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Vacuum.

Vacuum.

Vacuum.

There.

That wasn’t so hard… was it?

(mind you, I’m tempted to get my car washed to get a free vaccum – sounds quite exotic)

Can you live with bad spelling?

Me… not so much.

Sure I’m not perfect. Definitely has always been a tricky one for me and just the other day bolognese had me a bit flummoxed but if I notice a mistake – I can’t go to sleep knowing that it’s there.

I write a lot for my living and I read a lot, and let me tell you that bad spelling, especially on a job application does not impress.

Sure on radio you could argue does spelling really matter? – it’s not like anyone can actually see the words – but it does matter.

If you’re reading a script and you notice a bad spelling you check yourself. The read can become stilted, can sound read as you try and decipher what is being meant.
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Bad spelling can change the meaning of the sentence… and worse really bad spelling can make you giggle – and laughing on air – well what if it was a script about a serious subject – an obituary for example.

Frankly if it’s typewritten there is no excuse.

Handwritten? Should I be grateful they can write at all? Well everyone makes mistakes I guess. I’ll allow one or two but no more.

This guy? Well I can hear he is frustrated with the bad spelling he encounters everyday – my advice – never give up!

Colin – I join you in your crusade!

How to spell diarrhoea

On a recent holiday the question was asked: How many people in this house can spell diarrhoea correctly?

Yallingup

Groover insisted that he didn’t know anyone who could spell it off the bat, even those who profess to be good spellers.

This proved to be the case with an English major, teacher and journalist all failing admirably to spell it correctly. We’re not counting the engineer who can’t spell for toffee (or even possibly toffee).

It took us a while to even check the right spelling in the dictionary because we couldn’t find it due to the weird and unusual ways we were spelling it. Although, to be fair, we had put the engineer on dictionary duty.

So when we finally found the blasted word we decided we’d better make up a mnemonic to remember it and here’s what we came up with:
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Disaster in Arse, Run Run Hide, Or Explosion Arrives

Another one found on the net is:

Dash In A Real Rush, Hurry Or Else Accident!

I think ours is a little more… earthy? A little less school-friendly perhaps.

Which one do you prefer? Or do you have your own?

100 Demons

[I interrupt my back-to-back West Wing viewing – now up to series 3 – to bring you this post – don’t get me started on the lamps…]

This is kind of following on from my previous English post…

I was thinking about things that I always check when I’m writing. The two that I consciously think about are:

it’s/its – I always recite is it it is before I carry on with my sentence

And the other one is …definitely.

For years I spelt it definATEly, which is definitely wrong. Don’t know why, but it was the one word that would seriously trip me up. Which was odd because I spelled (is it spelled or spelt?) finite without thinking…

I think everyone has that word that undoes them, that they have to check they’ve not made the same old mistake. I saw seperately the other day from someone who obviously didn’t have to write out the 100 Demons at primary school.

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100 words, not hard exactly but tricksy. Separate was one of them. Punishment at school was writing out the 100 Demons at the back of the spelling book. They were doubled if you didn’t hand them in on time. Janine in my grade 6 class once had thousands and thousands to do. She was a bit naughty.

But I bet she has no problem spelling separate now. 🙂

So I’m sitting here pretty smug thinking I’m a pretty good speller… and I do a little search on the internet on the 100 demons and come across this little quiz.

20/25

Embarrassment!

Go on, take the test. And let me know how you get on… I double dare you! 🙂